to children as law enforcement continue to try to sort this out on one more sad day in america. >> part of our reaction, clint, yours as well, is certainly emotional and when we look at these kids and this age group of five to ten years old, kindergarten through fourth grade, we don't see these story lines at this level of school, good thing. but take a step back for us, you know the full context in terms of these sorts of tragedies nationwide. can you do that for us? >> we can, richard, we have seen approximately 20 incidents like this, into an environment like this, into a school, into a shopping mall, into a movie theater. what worries me, sometimes, richard, is that we're seeing so many of these, we have become somewhat numb and we don't realize the terrible emotional pain, the physical pain that's suffered, and realize again, this is something these children, their parents will carry. and it's one more place where we thought our children were safe. where reality has at least in this school has proven that's not the case. >> clint talk to us, what we're seeing right now, this is a staging